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Tuesday, January 03, 2006

Anthrax? Hello? Anybody Home? Hello?

Here we are, it's 2006. Anybody remember the Anthrax scare?

Ahhh c'mon, you remember don't you? It was that freaky time in your life when you weren't sure whether the world was about to suddenly come to an end. Remember the days soon after 9/11, when anthrax started appearing everywhere? Do you remember how gas masks were selling on Ebay for hundreds of dollars? Do you remember how you feared for your family's life as your television sold you a bill of goods about these Anthrax letters, reportedly sent by Arabs?

Do you remember how Anthrax was on television, in magazines, in newspapers; seemingly downloaded into your brain at almost every moment of your waking day-- for months? According to a LexisNexis search conducted by TomDispatch.com, "between Oct. 4 and Dec. 4, 2001, 389 stories appeared in the New York Times with "anthrax" in the headline." During the same period, 238 "anthrax" stories appeared in the Washington Post. Think about that for a second. Now consider the noise made by all the other media outlets. Now add all that noise together. That's a lot of noise.

These days though, the silence is deafening.

Anthrax? Are you there? Anybody home?
Have you heard of anthrax lately? Do you know what became of the anthrax investigation? Do you know if anybody was ever arrested? Do you know if the FBI has any leads? What do you know about anthrax? When was the last time you saw an anthrax story in the newspaper?

Yes, the anthrax story is gone. Like Kaiser Soza and Osama bin Laden-- vanished, 'poof', just like that! It served it's purpose (just like Osama). It got us into a war with Iraq. Mission accomplished, as they say.

But here is the real gist of it all:

All the anthrax used in the various anthrax attacks in 2001 came from a United States military base. They all came from the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases (USAMRIID), Fort Detrick, Maryland. But there were two separate mailings of anthrax letters. One batch of letters was mailed on or about September 18, 2001. This batch went to various media outlets and contained cutaneous anthrax (Ames Strain).

Then on or about October, 9, 2001, the second batch of letters was mailed out. This batch contained a much more lethal "weaponized version" of the Ames strain. These letters were sent to two Democratic Senators.

Hydrocarbon analysis showed that all of the anthrax found in the letters was incubated within two years of the time it was mailed.

And from CNN on June 26, 2002:
"This discovery lends credence to the theory that whoever mailed the finely milled anthrax spores -- known to be of the Ames strain -- has a current connection to a sophisticated laboratory.

Investigators have long believed the suspect possessed a sophisticated knowledge of anthrax and a high level of training."
Now, here is something everybody seems to miss. If Osama bin Laden is responsible for the 9/11 attacks (yeah right), isn't it somewhat odd that some other group of people with certain ties to the United States government just so happened to pull off the anthrax attacks within a week of 9/11 and again on October 9? Are we supposed to believe that the anthrax attacker(s) were just waiting around with extremely fatal weaponized anthrax in their refrigerators for the right moment? And what about the letters? C'mon, these guys were obviously trying to frame Arabs for the attacks. Isn't this the slightest bit suspicious to anybody in the media?

So let's recap.

The Anthrax came from an American military base.
The Anthrax required sophisticated knowledge and a high level of training.
The Anthrax letters contained feeble minded language to make us all believe they were written by some "stupid Arab".
The letters were mailed within one week of 9/11. (Were they just waiting around for a 9/11-like event to take place or was it all just a big coincidence?)

If the Anthrax attackers are related to the US government, what does that tell us about 9/11? Perhaps this is why the media went to sleep on the anthrax story after it was revealed that the anthrax came from Fort Detrick. Hmmmmm, what do you think? After all, if you connect the dots on anthrax, 9/11 is pretty much a no-brainer, isn't it?

A Few More Things to Make Your Head Spin
1. Members of the White House (including Bush, Cheney, and the Cabinet) were given the antibiotic CIPRO on September 11, 2001-- seven (7) days prior to the date the first anthrax letter was even mailed. (I wasn't aware that antibiotics could save you from a jumbo jet smashing into your building, cool!)

2. Even after it was determined that the only anthrax to ever be used in a terrorist attack against American citizens came from our own military base, the Bush administration had Colin Powell waving around a vial of faux-anthrax at the United Nations in February of 2003. We invaded and occupied Iraq because, as Colin Powell stated that day, "Saddam Hussein has not verifiably accounted for even one teaspoon-full of this deadly material". (Considering that it was our own anthrax that was used against us in the 2001 anthrax letters, isn't this statement just a tad ironic?)

The president loves to make us remember 9/11. Why doesn't he ever remind us of the anthrax attacks? Oh wait......

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More people should read this!

It's good to bring up things from the (not very distant) past as people seem to have very short memories these days and the governments of the world are very fond of rewriting history to their own advantage.

Great posts for 2006. Picked up the link at Grabbe. It astonishes me how many blogs how many "Americans" seem to realize the "Truth" about 911, the London Subway attack the "no story" at Hemel Hempstead and Romulus Mich. It's been clear right from the start; Lies and more lies.

Anthrax served its purpose. After all weren't the recipients of said letters actually Democrats who might otherwise oppose the invasion of Iraq because of what transpired on September 11th?

This is another story that disappeared down the memmory hole.

I do remember Anthrax and also DUCT TAPE!

Great work. Keep on connecting those dots. You might also know that the FBI visited a university (Idaho I think) and persuaded them to destroy their records relating to the DNA of the various anthrax strains. Wouldn't do to have too many people finding out that the anthrax used to "persuade" potentially recalcitrant media and Democratic congressmen was sourced at a US military research facility. They might start thinking that the same "terrorists" that got the Air Force to fly in the opposite direction, neutralised the missile defences around the Pentagon, and got WTC1, 2 and 7 to fall down in defiance of the laws of physics might just be the same people with access to Fort Detrick.

The fact is that the media has the liberals just where they want them. The LSM/DNC makes up anything against Bush no matter how insane and throws it out to see if anything sticks, all to keep the paranoid fools whining about insignificant partisan crap while they get things done behind the scenes.

The DeLay thing is a joke and nothing will come of it.

What ever became of the Plame CIA thing that was going to bring Bush down? NOTHING because it was all a set-up by the DNC to go along with the Wilson/Plame game of fame.

Remember all the crapola about Katrina? Sharks in the streets, Rapes, Cannibalism etc...? NONE of it was true, but the media reported it anyway and stupid paranoid liberals bought every word! FACT!

What is true however, and what the media refuses to report is that Economic growth in the third quarter was 4.1 percent -- despite Hurricane Katrina!

Libs are the fools who are being used by the DNC and they're just too damn stupid to realize it.

The "Impeach Bush" crap is keeping the fools hopeful, but again, nothing will ever happen and the moronic liberals will be left hanging with their mouths open again, wondering...


Paranoia will destroy ya!

Oh look, it's the resident right wing kool aid swiller Ottmann!

Welcome back Ottmann. We missed you bud. Where have you been? Supporting the troops?

Ottmann, if us liberals are at risk to paranoia, you right wingers are suffering from severe cognitive dissonance and denial.

Anthrax was an awesome band. Too band that talent couldn't have been harnessed to make a lie that would be permanently effective. Some Americans are fooled by the lack of evidence and pious masturbation over the corpses of 9/11 victims. Then again, if you believe 9/11 and Iraq are related: ENLIST. If you don't enlist, you're a fuckin' pussy.

"...FBI discovered that the end of the hunt for the sender of the Anthrax letters was NOT Dr. Assaad the Egyptian, but Dr. Zack, who is Jewish. At this point, both the FBI and the mainstream media stopped making any public comments on the case."

People do not have short attention spans, they have stupidity spans. I remember anthrax because the local post office claims that if a postal worker does not see you drop of the mail they will hold it for a few days to test for anthrax.
I asked how they tested it, no response. I asked why, if they were so concerned, they let people drop off the mail on the bays to begin with? She doesnt know, but she (the manager) is sure that this is in fact the policy.
I pointed out that it made no sense (especially because the gate to the "restricted" area has been broken for at least a year) and I get a lecture about "security."
I drop off mail once a week for nine months and have this conversation every time (because Im perverse like that).
So not all of us have forgotten anthrax or the BS it caused.
I wonder if a side benefit that no one has talked about is the government opening whatever mail it wants to if they suspect it may contain anthrax, private mail eroding from a right to a privlegde.
I really dont know how you could test for anthrax without opening the mail or package.
Not to add to the paranoia - but hasnt BushCo proved itself capable of all manner of criminal activity?

See http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/anthraxsuspect.html

Dr. Philip Zack

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/

That's because the one suspect they had, who was caught entering the storage area where the Anthrax was kept, without authorization and after being fired from his job following a racially-motivated attack on an Egyptian co-worker, turned out not to be an Arab.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/anthraxsuspect.html

You mean to tell me that everytime GWB or anyone else says, "We haven't had any terrorist attacks since 9-11", they are not being truthful?

Maybe with the stress on "terrorist" they are correct.

Ottman. Paranoia will destroy you! Wasn't it the Republican Neo-Cons and Fox News who were fear-mongering the non-existant WMD in Iraq? I think they have you right were they want you. They've lied to you and you are still cheering them on. That makes you the sucker. Rush needs he hug now.

oh dear ottman

As I recall all the mad stories re: Katrina, were just idle ten-minute hearsay and that hardly is an appropriate comparisson in any of these cases.

Currently residing in the UK. last night I was fortunate enough to see ITN news footage of many New Orleans neighbourhoods that have recieved absolutely no federal aid at all and to all intents and purposes have not been thought about. Now that is a true horror story.

So, Growth is 4.1%, ok, but the trade defecit is enormous, indeed, even the interest on the $8.15 trillion dollar federal debt cannot possibly be paid from tax revenues as they stand, especially as yet another pointless (and illegal) war consumes so much of the imaginary fiat money that the US spends in such a profligate manner. lets remember here that the financially 'conservative' Bush that believes in 'small governemnt' has piled on about 2.5 trillion dollars of debt in just 6 years!

As far as Plame goes, you may failed to have noticed there was an indictment and an extension of the investigation. Granted, only the odious Miller was sent to Jail thus far. but one lives in hope. lets remember here, that not only was treason committed, but indeed under this, is the bigger story of how outright LIES were peddled in order to arrange democracy in Iraq (or as I know it better - lies lies and lies to kill lots of people for no good reason)

Impeachment depends not on the DNC, who have been quite cowardly on this issue and do not have the votes to achieve this anyway, but rather the Republicans with a stronger grip of reality than the president, eyeing their seat (or lack thereof) in november.

Due to the corruption in the system, I would have agreed with you about Delay until recently. However, now Abramoff has been picked up, I am not so sure.

So apart from the 4.1% assertion. I make it that you are pretty much wrong on all counts. I consider myself neither Liberal nor Conservative, these labels mean absolutely nothing these days, least of all when liberal is taken to mean communist America-hater or conservative as freedom-nuking warmonger. I am just horrified at the US, a country I used to call home, collapsing under the weight of collosal hubris.

The Anthrax attacks (that you fail to talk about) are the biggest mystery of this whole affair. I would sugest that they are likely to stay that way also. for a long time

what a great fucking post

I too found it curious that once the anthrax was determined to be of US origin that the matter quietly disappeared from view.

And if indeed a terrorist agent had the wherewithall to send the anthrax once or twice, why did they stop? did they run out of anthrax? why didn't they send the stuff out to average americans all over the place, something that would have really created a panic. instead, once we found the targets were all media/political personnel, average people weren't so worried...

interesting about the white house innoculations...didn't know that one.

To answer "That Girl", mail is tested for anthrax nationwide now. Mail isn't held for days. All testing is very quick and does not involve opening of mail. The company that made the system is Northrup Grumman and the technology used is from Cepheid, et al. This is public knowledge.

As always, the solution to the criminal cabal that stole its way to power in 2000, stole an extension of its tenure in 2004, and is rapidly destroying America as we know it, is: Paper Ballots, Hand Counted. Please read up on the vote/election theft operation being carried out by three main Republican-owned companies -- Diebold, E.E.& S., and Sequoia. Get the info you need at: www.blackboxvoting.org and http://www.ecotalk.org/VotingSecurity.htm

Great post!
I think about the anthrax all the time.
It's actually got somewhat of a parallel in the 9/11 insider trading investigation and also in the Enron scandal.
The right considers law enforcement to be a political weapon, so some investigations shut down when they should be very easy to finish (like this one), and some hone right in on a scapegoat (like to Martha Stewart in the wake of Enron, or Brandon Mayfield in the wake of the Madrid bombings.)
As we can see from Ottman's post, their faithful are so keen on "winning", they will overlook any crime. They see what they believe instead of believing what they see. Is the KoolAid getting stronger?

why didn't they send the stuff out to average americans all over the place, something that would have really created a panic. instead, once we found the targets were all media/political personnel, average people weren't so worried...

Because the scare tactic worked: Passage of the (un)Patriot Act.

No one was allowed to read it because no one was in the capital. Remember?!

I'm sorry, but how can you honestly suggest that the U.S. government had something to do with 9/11?

I am a liberal and hate Bush and the current administration and all that yada yada, but that kind of claim is just stupid.

Don't be ridiculous.

Markie, people can suggest it cuz lots of experts have said the same thing. What is required is for "concerned" folks like yourself to get off your backside and read. Try these:

www.physics911.net
www.911review.com/articles/griffin/commissionlies.html
www.whatreallyhappened.com

When the BBC says six of the "hijackers" are alive, then the American public needs to demand answers. Why did the Commission say fire brought down WTC 7 when the owner said on PBS it was "pulled." How come military pilots say there's no way the "hijackers" could have hit the targets? There are many excellent videos available.

that right wing nutter Ottoman- is typical of the hypocricy, vapid ideas, and corruption of principles that has made AMerica even more despised.The Right Wing Sheep--absorb their insular ideas from the Think Tank policy makers that are created by Corporate foundations that get an income tax break to disseminate skewered facts, and propaganda>----What a joke talk about time for reform!

When an entire nation attention spans forget that assassinations, coups, and death squads were used throughout Latin AMerica,was terrorism . The State of Florida is a retirement home, for brutal dictators and thugs who receive amnesty for their crimes, along with Cuban hijackers and saboteurs. These same thugs were trained at the School of the Americas- FT Benning- trained in the art of torture, and smashing dissent with brutality---el diablo=terrorism

John Negroponte- in charge of DNI--after the intelligence shake up- was ambassador to IRAQ--under his tenure the Iraqi death squad militias, with their dubious connections to the Interior Ministry is the same tactics that Negroponte used as ambassador to Honduras to destabalise El SAlvador.

Anthrax attacks-during 1992 an ARmy inquiry showed that lab specimens of Anthrax, Ebola, Simian Aids disappeared during a turbulent period of labour complaints.

SEPT 10,2001- CBS- talking about Donald Rumsfields announcement of the missing trillion dollars over the years from the Pentagon budget-----that story died too!

Mark: Where have you been? Have you actually bothered to read the excellent books by Griffin, Tarpley, Ruppert, Ahmed for example, or looked at a website such as wtc7.net? Belief has nothing to do with it. Consider the evidence and then make a considered judgment. You may not like where the evidence leads, but living in sublime ignorance is much worse.

Say,Mark:it's real EZ.Normally,the first eyebrow that should have gone up was when the BushLeaguers made it oh-so-very clear that they did not want an investigation. Innocent people don't do that. Innocent people don't stonewall,underfund,or otherwise try to drag out an investigation.Innocent people cooperate fully so they can be delacred innocent in the eyes of the law as quickly as possible so they can get on with their lives.What good reason did they have to not cooperate with the 911 investigation,which was a total whitewash anyway? Anyway, with their M.O., it's more ridiculous to think that they had nothing to do with it.They've been lying since they stole the White House , but some time before the attacks , they had a meeting to select a day which they WEREN'T going to do any of the Devil's Work , and that day was September 11? There is a 9/11-PNAC-Iraq connection that the media absolutely refuses to discuss.9/11 was just the beginning; they have plans that go way beyond what we're watching unfurl today.Remember: Bush's Skull & Bones nickname is Temporary.

I do think this is interesting, and would like to take a moment to invite everyone to constantly take a look at all the evidence again and again and share what you see.

The more I look, the more I see tiny details. Just yesterday I was looking at that piece of supposed AA flight wreckage outside the pentagon, and I worked for AA and don't believe the colors and shape of colors occurs anywhere on their aircraft. The colors on the scrap are curved, and AA's planes have straight lines of color on an unpainted body. The only curves are where the plane itself curves.

Maybe it's nothing, but if we all share what we see, maybe together we CAN figure this all out.

Instead of discarding things that offend your ideas about what happened, invite as many ideas as possible. The truth will rise to the top.

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/january2006/050106silversteinanswers.htm
He meant firefighters. Sure.

Grear work bulldog, everybody should send this to the NY Times and the washington post and so on, and demand an explanation. Tell them you are boycotting them and that soon everybody you know will as well. Fuck the MSM and their deceptive tactics to ruin America. Lets not turn this into a liberal conservative discussion, because that is not what it is. This is about truth vs. lies. Freedom vs. Fascism. Americans vs. New World Order. Lets put an end to all of their bullshit. Stop depending on Federal Reserve money (printed from nothing, then lent to you and the governement with interest tacked on). Marvelous scheme. Lets bring it down, without it none of this shit would even be possible.

Anthrax not neccesarily obtained from Fort Detrick. Remember Porton Down is the UKs equivalent Chem /bio facilty that holds the Anthrax Ames strain. It was reported in the UK media that Dr Stephen Hatfill was at Porton Down in the months prior to the 'mailings his visit paid for by the UK government.
Having triggered a UK police investigation into illegal experiments conducted on British servicemen (I was one of them ) at Porton Down I advised the FBI to contact the lead investigator Det Supt G Luckett that headed the police inquiry code name Operation Antler in the hope that he may be in a position to assist them further in the anthrax investigation. I understand that the FBI did in fact visit Porton Down shortly thereafter but unfortunately I never heard anything further. When asked the UK Police refused comment.

As they prepare the obits for Ari, does anyone know why he changed his name? And isn't it interesting that the russian tradition of violence seems to have been carried on by him..

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Sharon was born Ariel Scheinermann February 27, 1928 to a Jewish father of German-Polish origin and a Jewish mother, of Russian origin, in Kfar Malal in the Yishuv of the British Mandate of Palestine. Sharon's parents were Second Aliyah veterans, that is, socialists with a secular worldview, but with a willingness to both compromise and fight.

In 1942 at the age of 14, he joined the Gadna, a paramilitary youth battalion, and later Haganah, the underground paramilitary force and the Jewish military precursor to the Israel Defense Forces. At the creation of Israel (and Haganah's transformation into the Israel Defense Forces), Sharon was a platoon commander in the Alexandroni Brigade. Sharon was severely wounded in the groin by the Jordanian Arab Legion in the Second Battle of Latrun, an unsuccessful attempt to relieve the besieged Jewish community of Jerusalem. His injuries eventually healed.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_Sharon

I was at Iowa State University in Ames, Iowa, when all of this was going on. The university officals and the FBI came to our campus and detained many Middle Eastern students because these students may have been the ones to distribute the Ames strain to the public. These students were questioned and followed for months, some were even deported, why? Their educational careers were destroyed for something our government did to increase public fear.

Voice of the Lord: The one in the braces, he done it!
Klaus: It's a fair cop, but society's to blame.
Detective: Agreed. We'll be charging them too.

Ok, now that we've seen how far these people are willign to go to gain power, do you wonder what we have not seen? Who were the targets of the anthrax? Dems and reporters...

Judith Miller had very coincidental books and articles about Anthrax at just the time the 'attacks' happened. Send her back to jail.

Mother Jones had a very interesting article about this very topic:

http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2005/12/anthrax.html

Now's the time to get the public talking about this. Any ideas about how to give it widespread attention?
Here's one idea:
A blog campaign to raise money for a poll on the anthrax question.

1. Members of the White House (including Bush, Cheney, and the Cabinet) were given the antibiotic CIPRO on September 11, 2001-- seven (7) days prior to the date the first anthrax letter was even mailed. (I wasn't aware that antibiotics could save you from a jumbo jet smashing into your building, cool!)

What is your evidence for this claim?

The NY Times & Washington Post ARE the mainstream media. After all, Woodward is, was, and always has been ONI.

Re: "evidence" - we can't even get the MSM to stop referring (dishonestly) to the federal reserve as a "government agency" - what good would "evidence" do on an instant post site? Oh yeah - help you identify how that info leaked to a blogger with his eyes wide open. I saw this particular article at conspiracyplanet.com today, a site that I can guarantee you all the MSM read daily, along with waynemadsenreport.com, tomflocco.com, stewwebb.com, savethemales.ca, and rense.com.

Repeat: the MSM and many of our "representatives" in congress read these sites every day to see if they are being "told on". They have no intention of informing the clueless of the truth - now or ever. Cloakanddagger.de is temporarily unavailable for the umpteenth time, in the administration's unending attempts to close sites like that down (the de is because they have to go through a server in Germany in order to say up and online).

John X,

Go HERE for the proof. It was reported by the Washington Post.

Here is the excerpt:

On the night of the Sept. 11 attacks, the White House Medical Office dispensed Cipro to staff accompanying Vice President Dick Cheney as he was secreted off to the safety of Camp David, and told them it was "a precaution," according to one person directly involved.

-anthrax no problemo---look at the deal Kissinger set up with MERK pharmaceuticals in the late 60's(possibly early 80's)- testing all sorts of things on unsuspecting Africans in the Congo

- Hey, you would prefer LSD tested on people?

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More people should read this!

It's good to bring up things from the (not very distant) past as people seem to have very short memories these days and the governments of the world are very fond of rewriting history to their own advantage.

Great posts for 2006. Picked up the link at Grabbe. It astonishes me how many blogs how many "Americans" seem to realize the "Truth" about 911, the London Subway attack the "no story" at Hemel Hempstead and Romulus Mich. It's been clear right from the start; Lies and more lies.

Anthrax served its purpose. After all weren't the recipients of said letters actually Democrats who might otherwise oppose the invasion of Iraq because of what transpired on September 11th?

This is another story that disappeared down the memmory hole.

I do remember Anthrax and also DUCT TAPE!

Great work. Keep on connecting those dots. You might also know that the FBI visited a university (Idaho I think) and persuaded them to destroy their records relating to the DNA of the various anthrax strains. Wouldn't do to have too many people finding out that the anthrax used to "persuade" potentially recalcitrant media and Democratic congressmen was sourced at a US military research facility. They might start thinking that the same "terrorists" that got the Air Force to fly in the opposite direction, neutralised the missile defences around the Pentagon, and got WTC1, 2 and 7 to fall down in defiance of the laws of physics might just be the same people with access to Fort Detrick.

The fact is that the media has the liberals just where they want them. The LSM/DNC makes up anything against Bush no matter how insane and throws it out to see if anything sticks, all to keep the paranoid fools whining about insignificant partisan crap while they get things done behind the scenes.

The DeLay thing is a joke and nothing will come of it.

What ever became of the Plame CIA thing that was going to bring Bush down? NOTHING because it was all a set-up by the DNC to go along with the Wilson/Plame game of fame.

Remember all the crapola about Katrina? Sharks in the streets, Rapes, Cannibalism etc...? NONE of it was true, but the media reported it anyway and stupid paranoid liberals bought every word! FACT!

What is true however, and what the media refuses to report is that Economic growth in the third quarter was 4.1 percent -- despite Hurricane Katrina!

Libs are the fools who are being used by the DNC and they're just too damn stupid to realize it.

The "Impeach Bush" crap is keeping the fools hopeful, but again, nothing will ever happen and the moronic liberals will be left hanging with their mouths open again, wondering...


Paranoia will destroy ya!

Oh look, it's the resident right wing kool aid swiller Ottmann!

Welcome back Ottmann. We missed you bud. Where have you been? Supporting the troops?

Ottmann, if us liberals are at risk to paranoia, you right wingers are suffering from severe cognitive dissonance and denial.

Anthrax was an awesome band. Too band that talent couldn't have been harnessed to make a lie that would be permanently effective. Some Americans are fooled by the lack of evidence and pious masturbation over the corpses of 9/11 victims. Then again, if you believe 9/11 and Iraq are related: ENLIST. If you don't enlist, you're a fuckin' pussy.

"...FBI discovered that the end of the hunt for the sender of the Anthrax letters was NOT Dr. Assaad the Egyptian, but Dr. Zack, who is Jewish. At this point, both the FBI and the mainstream media stopped making any public comments on the case."

People do not have short attention spans, they have stupidity spans. I remember anthrax because the local post office claims that if a postal worker does not see you drop of the mail they will hold it for a few days to test for anthrax.
I asked how they tested it, no response. I asked why, if they were so concerned, they let people drop off the mail on the bays to begin with? She doesnt know, but she (the manager) is sure that this is in fact the policy.
I pointed out that it made no sense (especially because the gate to the "restricted" area has been broken for at least a year) and I get a lecture about "security."
I drop off mail once a week for nine months and have this conversation every time (because Im perverse like that).
So not all of us have forgotten anthrax or the BS it caused.
I wonder if a side benefit that no one has talked about is the government opening whatever mail it wants to if they suspect it may contain anthrax, private mail eroding from a right to a privlegde.
I really dont know how you could test for anthrax without opening the mail or package.
Not to add to the paranoia - but hasnt BushCo proved itself capable of all manner of criminal activity?

See http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/anthraxsuspect.html

Dr. Philip Zack

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/

That's because the one suspect they had, who was caught entering the storage area where the Anthrax was kept, without authorization and after being fired from his job following a racially-motivated attack on an Egyptian co-worker, turned out not to be an Arab.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/anthraxsuspect.html

You mean to tell me that everytime GWB or anyone else says, "We haven't had any terrorist attacks since 9-11", they are not being truthful?

Maybe with the stress on "terrorist" they are correct.

Ottman. Paranoia will destroy you! Wasn't it the Republican Neo-Cons and Fox News who were fear-mongering the non-existant WMD in Iraq? I think they have you right were they want you. They've lied to you and you are still cheering them on. That makes you the sucker. Rush needs he hug now.

oh dear ottman

As I recall all the mad stories re: Katrina, were just idle ten-minute hearsay and that hardly is an appropriate comparisson in any of these cases.

Currently residing in the UK. last night I was fortunate enough to see ITN news footage of many New Orleans neighbourhoods that have recieved absolutely no federal aid at all and to all intents and purposes have not been thought about. Now that is a true horror story.

So, Growth is 4.1%, ok, but the trade defecit is enormous, indeed, even the interest on the $8.15 trillion dollar federal debt cannot possibly be paid from tax revenues as they stand, especially as yet another pointless (and illegal) war consumes so much of the imaginary fiat money that the US spends in such a profligate manner. lets remember here that the financially 'conservative' Bush that believes in 'small governemnt' has piled on about 2.5 trillion dollars of debt in just 6 years!

As far as Plame goes, you may failed to have noticed there was an indictment and an extension of the investigation. Granted, only the odious Miller was sent to Jail thus far. but one lives in hope. lets remember here, that not only was treason committed, but indeed under this, is the bigger story of how outright LIES were peddled in order to arrange democracy in Iraq (or as I know it better - lies lies and lies to kill lots of people for no good reason)

Impeachment depends not on the DNC, who have been quite cowardly on this issue and do not have the votes to achieve this anyway, but rather the Republicans with a stronger grip of reality than the president, eyeing their seat (or lack thereof) in november.

Due to the corruption in the system, I would have agreed with you about Delay until recently. However, now Abramoff has been picked up, I am not so sure.

So apart from the 4.1% assertion. I make it that you are pretty much wrong on all counts. I consider myself neither Liberal nor Conservative, these labels mean absolutely nothing these days, least of all when liberal is taken to mean communist America-hater or conservative as freedom-nuking warmonger. I am just horrified at the US, a country I used to call home, collapsing under the weight of collosal hubris.

The Anthrax attacks (that you fail to talk about) are the biggest mystery of this whole affair. I would sugest that they are likely to stay that way also. for a long time

what a great fucking post

I too found it curious that once the anthrax was determined to be of US origin that the matter quietly disappeared from view.

And if indeed a terrorist agent had the wherewithall to send the anthrax once or twice, why did they stop? did they run out of anthrax? why didn't they send the stuff out to average americans all over the place, something that would have really created a panic. instead, once we found the targets were all media/political personnel, average people weren't so worried...

interesting about the white house innoculations...didn't know that one.

To answer "That Girl", mail is tested for anthrax nationwide now. Mail isn't held for days. All testing is very quick and does not involve opening of mail. The company that made the system is Northrup Grumman and the technology used is from Cepheid, et al. This is public knowledge.

As always, the solution to the criminal cabal that stole its way to power in 2000, stole an extension of its tenure in 2004, and is rapidly destroying America as we know it, is: Paper Ballots, Hand Counted. Please read up on the vote/election theft operation being carried out by three main Republican-owned companies -- Diebold, E.E.& S., and Sequoia. Get the info you need at: www.blackboxvoting.org and http://www.ecotalk.org/VotingSecurity.htm

Great post!
I think about the anthrax all the time.
It's actually got somewhat of a parallel in the 9/11 insider trading investigation and also in the Enron scandal.
The right considers law enforcement to be a political weapon, so some investigations shut down when they should be very easy to finish (like this one), and some hone right in on a scapegoat (like to Martha Stewart in the wake of Enron, or Brandon Mayfield in the wake of the Madrid bombings.)
As we can see from Ottman's post, their faithful are so keen on "winning", they will overlook any crime. They see what they believe instead of believing what they see. Is the KoolAid getting stronger?

why didn't they send the stuff out to average americans all over the place, something that would have really created a panic. instead, once we found the targets were all media/political personnel, average people weren't so worried...

Because the scare tactic worked: Passage of the (un)Patriot Act.

No one was allowed to read it because no one was in the capital. Remember?!

I'm sorry, but how can you honestly suggest that the U.S. government had something to do with 9/11?

I am a liberal and hate Bush and the current administration and all that yada yada, but that kind of claim is just stupid.

Don't be ridiculous.

Markie, people can suggest it cuz lots of experts have said the same thing. What is required is for "concerned" folks like yourself to get off your backside and read. Try these:

www.physics911.net
www.911review.com/articles/griffin/commissionlies.html
www.whatreallyhappened.com

When the BBC says six of the "hijackers" are alive, then the American public needs to demand answers. Why did the Commission say fire brought down WTC 7 when the owner said on PBS it was "pulled." How come military pilots say there's no way the "hijackers" could have hit the targets? There are many excellent videos available.

that right wing nutter Ottoman- is typical of the hypocricy, vapid ideas, and corruption of principles that has made AMerica even more despised.The Right Wing Sheep--absorb their insular ideas from the Think Tank policy makers that are created by Corporate foundations that get an income tax break to disseminate skewered facts, and propaganda>----What a joke talk about time for reform!

When an entire nation attention spans forget that assassinations, coups, and death squads were used throughout Latin AMerica,was terrorism . The State of Florida is a retirement home, for brutal dictators and thugs who receive amnesty for their crimes, along with Cuban hijackers and saboteurs. These same thugs were trained at the School of the Americas- FT Benning- trained in the art of torture, and smashing dissent with brutality---el diablo=terrorism

John Negroponte- in charge of DNI--after the intelligence shake up- was ambassador to IRAQ--under his tenure the Iraqi death squad militias, with their dubious connections to the Interior Ministry is the same tactics that Negroponte used as ambassador to Honduras to destabalise El SAlvador.

Anthrax attacks-during 1992 an ARmy inquiry showed that lab specimens of Anthrax, Ebola, Simian Aids disappeared during a turbulent period of labour complaints.

SEPT 10,2001- CBS- talking about Donald Rumsfields announcement of the missing trillion dollars over the years from the Pentagon budget-----that story died too!

Mark: Where have you been? Have you actually bothered to read the excellent books by Griffin, Tarpley, Ruppert, Ahmed for example, or looked at a website such as wtc7.net? Belief has nothing to do with it. Consider the evidence and then make a considered judgment. You may not like where the evidence leads, but living in sublime ignorance is much worse.

Say,Mark:it's real EZ.Normally,the first eyebrow that should have gone up was when the BushLeaguers made it oh-so-very clear that they did not want an investigation. Innocent people don't do that. Innocent people don't stonewall,underfund,or otherwise try to drag out an investigation.Innocent people cooperate fully so they can be delacred innocent in the eyes of the law as quickly as possible so they can get on with their lives.What good reason did they have to not cooperate with the 911 investigation,which was a total whitewash anyway? Anyway, with their M.O., it's more ridiculous to think that they had nothing to do with it.They've been lying since they stole the White House , but some time before the attacks , they had a meeting to select a day which they WEREN'T going to do any of the Devil's Work , and that day was September 11? There is a 9/11-PNAC-Iraq connection that the media absolutely refuses to discuss.9/11 was just the beginning; they have plans that go way beyond what we're watching unfurl today.Remember: Bush's Skull & Bones nickname is Temporary.

I do think this is interesting, and would like to take a moment to invite everyone to constantly take a look at all the evidence again and again and share what you see.

The more I look, the more I see tiny details. Just yesterday I was looking at that piece of supposed AA flight wreckage outside the pentagon, and I worked for AA and don't believe the colors and shape of colors occurs anywhere on their aircraft. The colors on the scrap are curved, and AA's planes have straight lines of color on an unpainted body. The only curves are where the plane itself curves.

Maybe it's nothing, but if we all share what we see, maybe together we CAN figure this all out.

Instead of discarding things that offend your ideas about what happened, invite as many ideas as possible. The truth will rise to the top.

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/january2006/050106silversteinanswers.htm
He meant firefighters. Sure.

Grear work bulldog, everybody should send this to the NY Times and the washington post and so on, and demand an explanation. Tell them you are boycotting them and that soon everybody you know will as well. Fuck the MSM and their deceptive tactics to ruin America. Lets not turn this into a liberal conservative discussion, because that is not what it is. This is about truth vs. lies. Freedom vs. Fascism. Americans vs. New World Order. Lets put an end to all of their bullshit. Stop depending on Federal Reserve money (printed from nothing, then lent to you and the governement with interest tacked on). Marvelous scheme. Lets bring it down, without it none of this shit would even be possible.

Anthrax not neccesarily obtained from Fort Detrick. Remember Porton Down is the UKs equivalent Chem /bio facilty that holds the Anthrax Ames strain. It was reported in the UK media that Dr Stephen Hatfill was at Porton Down in the months prior to the 'mailings his visit paid for by the UK government.
Having triggered a UK police investigation into illegal experiments conducted on British servicemen (I was one of them ) at Porton Down I advised the FBI to contact the lead investigator Det Supt G Luckett that headed the police inquiry code name Operation Antler in the hope that he may be in a position to assist them further in the anthrax investigation. I understand that the FBI did in fact visit Porton Down shortly thereafter but unfortunately I never heard anything further. When asked the UK Police refused comment.

As they prepare the obits for Ari, does anyone know why he changed his name? And isn't it interesting that the russian tradition of violence seems to have been carried on by him..

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Sharon was born Ariel Scheinermann February 27, 1928 to a Jewish father of German-Polish origin and a Jewish mother, of Russian origin, in Kfar Malal in the Yishuv of the British Mandate of Palestine. Sharon's parents were Second Aliyah veterans, that is, socialists with a secular worldview, but with a willingness to both compromise and fight.

In 1942 at the age of 14, he joined the Gadna, a paramilitary youth battalion, and later Haganah, the underground paramilitary force and the Jewish military precursor to the Israel Defense Forces. At the creation of Israel (and Haganah's transformation into the Israel Defense Forces), Sharon was a platoon commander in the Alexandroni Brigade. Sharon was severely wounded in the groin by the Jordanian Arab Legion in the Second Battle of Latrun, an unsuccessful attempt to relieve the besieged Jewish community of Jerusalem. His injuries eventually healed.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariel_Sharon

I was at Iowa State University in Ames, Iowa, when all of this was going on. The university officals and the FBI came to our campus and detained many Middle Eastern students because these students may have been the ones to distribute the Ames strain to the public. These students were questioned and followed for months, some were even deported, why? Their educational careers were destroyed for something our government did to increase public fear.

Voice of the Lord: The one in the braces, he done it!
Klaus: It's a fair cop, but society's to blame.
Detective: Agreed. We'll be charging them too.

Ok, now that we've seen how far these people are willign to go to gain power, do you wonder what we have not seen? Who were the targets of the anthrax? Dems and reporters...

Judith Miller had very coincidental books and articles about Anthrax at just the time the 'attacks' happened. Send her back to jail.

Mother Jones had a very interesting article about this very topic:

http://www.motherjones.com/commentary/columns/2005/12/anthrax.html

Now's the time to get the public talking about this. Any ideas about how to give it widespread attention?
Here's one idea:
A blog campaign to raise money for a poll on the anthrax question.

1. Members of the White House (including Bush, Cheney, and the Cabinet) were given the antibiotic CIPRO on September 11, 2001-- seven (7) days prior to the date the first anthrax letter was even mailed. (I wasn't aware that antibiotics could save you from a jumbo jet smashing into your building, cool!)

What is your evidence for this claim?

The NY Times & Washington Post ARE the mainstream media. After all, Woodward is, was, and always has been ONI.

Re: "evidence" - we can't even get the MSM to stop referring (dishonestly) to the federal reserve as a "government agency" - what good would "evidence" do on an instant post site? Oh yeah - help you identify how that info leaked to a blogger with his eyes wide open. I saw this particular article at conspiracyplanet.com today, a site that I can guarantee you all the MSM read daily, along with waynemadsenreport.com, tomflocco.com, stewwebb.com, savethemales.ca, and rense.com.

Repeat: the MSM and many of our "representatives" in congress read these sites every day to see if they are being "told on". They have no intention of informing the clueless of the truth - now or ever. Cloakanddagger.de is temporarily unavailable for the umpteenth time, in the administration's unending attempts to close sites like that down (the de is because they have to go through a server in Germany in order to say up and online).

John X,

Go HERE for the proof. It was reported by the Washington Post.

Here is the excerpt:

On the night of the Sept. 11 attacks, the White House Medical Office dispensed Cipro to staff accompanying Vice President Dick Cheney as he was secreted off to the safety of Camp David, and told them it was "a precaution," according to one person directly involved.

-anthrax no problemo---look at the deal Kissinger set up with MERK pharmaceuticals in the late 60's(possibly early 80's)- testing all sorts of things on unsuspecting Africans in the Congo

- Hey, you would prefer LSD tested on people?

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