Napalm and White Phosphorus in Fallujah
An Italian New Channel (RAI 24) televised a graphic VIDEO documenting U.S. use of white phosphorus and napalm against Iraqi civilians. I strongly suggest everybody watch the entire production. It is graphic, but people need to see it.
Where the fuck is our own media?
Why do I feel like a German citizen living in Nazi Germany, watching as my countrymen comletely ignore the atrocities being committed under OUR FLAG?










You feel that way because the parallels are eerily striking.
Posted by
Intellectual Insurgent |
Monday, November 07, 2005 1:55:00 PM
Seriously. We need to send this link out to anyone who will listen...
Posted by
mags |
Monday, November 07, 2005 7:26:00 PM
Bulldog, I just linked to your post. The Independent now as an article up as well. I think within a couple of days, this will be a big story in the news media (but not the American MSM).
Posted by
Zataod |
Tuesday, November 08, 2005 7:02:00 AM
Sorry, but White Phosphorous is not a "chemical weapon", as defined by any treaty, convention or law. It is not outlawed anywhere by anybody.
It is used primarily for smoke and illumination, and also to attack targets in situations where explosive/fragmentation rounds are ineffective. It starts fires, which works quite well against bunkered and fortified buildings. In other words, it was used exactly the way it was supposed to be used and has been used since at least World War II.
The article which says that bodies were burned but clothes were left intact is full of crap. WP burns anything and everything it touches, and I mean TOUCHES. You have to be touched by the actual substance..the smoke does nothing but maybe make you cough a lot.
By the way, I have used WP grenades from an M203, so I know for a fact how all this works, including the nonsense "150 meter" kill radius. It's more like ten.
Try a little education on military matters for once before you spout. I know, facts aren't usually the liberal way, but there it is.
Posted by
CSC5502D |
Tuesday, November 08, 2005 9:51:00 AM
As usual CSC, while you sit around making arguments about whether, for instance, WP is a chemical or incendiary device, people are being burned alive.
Who cares whether it's technically considered a chemical or incendiary device-- its just plain wrong. Period. You don't kill people indiscriminantly, and WP, as you surely know, when used in such a manner as in Fallujah, will kill without discretion.
While you sit around in your home in the USA, kids are being burned alive. You don't give a shit though, after all, every brown man is a fucking terrorist to you, right?
Posted by
The Bulldog Manifesto |
Tuesday, November 08, 2005 10:50:00 AM
It sounds like the same kind of rationalizing that is being used to justify torture in the Cheney/Bush concentration camps. For some reason these people have lost all sense of right and wrong.
Posted by
Zataod |
Tuesday, November 08, 2005 11:25:00 AM
I linked your story and added some graphic stuff as well as references to the various treaties and agreements...
Posted by
Glyn (Zaphod) Evans |
Tuesday, November 08, 2005 12:06:00 PM
Here is the Wikipedia discussion about white phosphorus:
This is a particularly poisonous element with 50 mg being the average fatal dose (white phosphorus is generally considered to be the lethal form of phosphorus while phosphate and orthophosphate are essential nutrients). The allotrope white phosphorus should be kept under water at all times and therefore presents a significant fire hazard due to its extreme reactivity to atmospheric oxygen, and it should only be manipulated with forceps since contact with skin can cause severe burns. Chronic white phosphorus poisoning of unprotected workers leads to necrosis of the jaw called "phossy-jaw". Ingestion of white phosphorus may cause a medical condition known as "Smoking Stool Syndrome". Fluorophosphate esters are among the most potent neurotoxins known but most inorganic phosphates are relatively nontoxic. Phosphate pollution occurs where fertilizers or detergents have leached into soils.
If Saddam used it, the Bushbots would call it a chemical weapon, but they are already in their predictable spin mode.
Democracy Now had a great debate this morning on the issue. http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/08/1516232
Posted by
Intellectual Insurgent |
Tuesday, November 08, 2005 1:00:00 PM
I'm so glag you posted this story, as did I on The Sappho Manifesto. Great work! And where the hell is the american media? Sometimes I to wonder what the hell country I'm living in. The Bush administration has really fucked up this country, as well as our image. Thanks to Bush, I am now frightened to travel overseas with an American passport. The World Is Watching
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